FGM and the right-wing agenda profitting from it

FGM or Female Genital Mutilation is a horrible tribal/cultural habit done in many parts of the world, but mostly in Sub-Saharan Africa and were those communities are linked to.

Though now illegal in most parts of the world, it is a back-door event done in secrecy by those whom do not know better and supported by radicals who want to keep control over the female population. That this is done in many Muslim countries, it is also done by Christians and animists in the same regions.

Radical and extremist Islamists proclaim that it is Sunna (the way of the Prophet) and thus Islamic, though it is not mentioned in the Qur'an or by the most accepted of haddiths. Certainly it is this radical link to ensuring the tribal customs are followed - simply because it keeps control over the population and especially by keeping women locked in the house with no rights and no education. That is why they support the burqa, the veil as well as child marriage, wife beating and threats of stoning. All unacceptable by the vast majority of Muslims around the world.

I noticed the right-wing bloggers trying to profit from the link to radicals, claiming instantly and like a pronouncement that FGM is Islamic, catching on to the claims by the most radical member of the Al-Azhar university, someone whom also supports the terrorism, destruction of Israel and all the Jews in it and other radical hate-filled rhetoric.

The blogger known as Sheikyermami came out with his usual BS and anti-Islamic ranting (mostly copied from other blogs and not actually very imaginative), made such an article.

Stating items that came out all over the anti-Islam sites about Cleric Farahat Said Al-Munji's statements on television on 10 May 2007 claiming that it is Sunna and proscribed. The right-wingers must have loved that making the most of the statement in their blogging rants.

What they all ignored was that ........ well let me show you what I posted.

Al-Munji declared on 10 May 2007 that it is Sunnah. He is only one of many clerics of Al-Azhar and a known radical.
What the report did not say was that a month later on 14 June 2007 (a month later) the Grand-Mufti of Egypt, Ali Goum announced that: “… this custom is prohibited”.
Al-Munji arleady had knowledge of this edict by the Mufti and in fact by his boss Mohammed Sayed Tantawi the Shiek of Al-Azhar. It was made clear at a 2006 international conference:
“TARGET, a German human rights group, sponsored a conference on FGM in Cairo, Egypt. Muslim scholars from many nations attended. At the conclusion of the conference on 2006-NOV-24, their final statement declared FGM to be contrary to Islam, an attack on women, and a practice that should be criminalized:
“The conference appeals to all Muslims to stop practicing this habit, according to Islam’s teachings which prohibit inflicting harm on any human being. … The conference reminds all teaching and media institutions of their role to explain to the people the harmful effects of this habit in order to eliminate it. … The conference calls on judicial institutions to issue laws that prohibit and criminalize this habit … which appeared in several societies and was adopted by some Muslims although it is not sanctioned by the Qur’an or the Sunna.”
According to The Age online news source:
“Egypt’s two top Islamic clerics, Mohammed Sayed Tantawi, the Grand Sheik of Al-Azhar, the foremost theological institute in the Sunni Muslim world, and Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa, attended the conference, which drew scholars from as far afield as Russia. Tantawi’s and Gomaa’s edicts are considered binding.

Of course the responses from the blogger and some side-kick was "who cares". None of the responses from the blogger or the item in question was about supporting the effort to fight the practice, rather just condemn the entire faith of 1.6 billion people because they have the agenda to discredit and destroy Islam. The blogger went so far as to say that no Muslim* country convicts those that do it, even though it is not only illegal but a cirminal offense here in Morocco with Sub-Saharan's being imprisoned or expelled (including diplomats) for the practice. The practice is not popular here with only some nomadic Saharans doing so. I recently watched an item on Egypt that suffers a great deal from the FGM practice that a number of women were not only imprisoned but their photos are now on posters in the southern regions of the country to remind everyone the penalty.

(* The blogger cannot actually say the word Muslim as he thinks that Islam is a Mohammed worshipping personality even though Muslims pray to God rather than many Christians whom pray to Christ or His Mother and thus the name Christian comes out. Also Muslims make a thing about personality and image worship as being haram and Mohammed 'peace be upon Him' made it clear that he was only a human and a servant of God. As the Prophet is the Messenger, we state that "There is no God but Allah and that Mohammed is His Messenger, a sub-servient role and no confussion with God ).

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Excellent Holidays & Expected Radical Fishing Results

Hi all, back from my lovely holiday in Agadir, Tiznit and region. It was damn hot with the "Chirgui" or Sahara Desert Winds that when it strikes can make the temperature go up to over 50 degrees, but anyway, most of the time I was between the swimming pool and the hotels air-conditioned restaurant or secluded corners of the lobby.

It was during these cool quiet times that I spent my continued investigations into anti-Islamic websites to further understand the mind-set of these people.

The target for this time was the Gates of Vienna blog (GoV) and to give the blog credit, it is a well run blog with good conduct rules. The two blog-owners known as Baron Bodissey and Dymphna do a pretty good job of running the show.

I jumped in with my standard objective and rule - point out factual errors, direct bigoted statements and pointing out the obvious - Islam and its core principles defined the Holy Qur'an are fine but the behaviour of radicals and extremists (as with all religions) are evil and destructive and they should be the target.

The results were mostly as expected and because of the good control, the hard-core bigots within took their time to start the personal attacks. Mind you some of them were from other blogs whom I have had run-ins before.

Unlike other blogs such as Lambeth Walk, GoV places items on the examples of radical and militant Islamists and leave it to the commenters to do the dirty bigotry in trying to tarnish the entire faith.

Also unlike other blogs, a good portion of the GoV items are far-right political postings - something that frankly speaking is not of interest to me. If anything, the blog is just another confirmation that there is an obvious link between the far-right with bigotry and ultra-nationalism whom will by default be anti-Islamic.

Justice has to be done to a number of posters whom though obviously right leaning, I had good discussions with. One such discussion about Turkish politics and the issue of the Armenian Genocide was enjoyable with the person in question asking smart questions. My own experiences from being posted to that country for two years and managing the Turkish Desk helped clarify some points.

It was not long though before the personal attacks and baiting started from those hard-core bigots - whom objected being identified as such even though their references were text-book bigotry (thus as the saying goes - if the shoe fits!).

In the end, Dymphna was getting sick of the domination of the topic (that I did not create nor start) and rather than halt the bigotry - blamed me for dominating and proselytizing, obviously false accusations and she gave me an official warning. Ironically it was the same time that another poster took the initiative of posting my item on this blog about watching GoV - something that I have not hid.

So I am now banned and condemned with ludicrous assumptions which I find funny and using the typical language of those feeling a bit of guilt in what they do. Sort of to justify their hard-line stance that in the end is indefensible.

So somehow I was there seeking converts - something that I in fact hate - a faith should be able to stand on its own legs and attract those by its principles and the behaviour of its followers. Selling sort of cheapens things.... as they say.

I am now a "typical" Muslim whom is there to do ...... whatever that means.

The self-styled "Baron" thinks that somehow he was proving a point and I was attempting to deny it - the popular method of playing with words because they cannot or are unwilling to look further than what suits their goals. He argued that the examples of horrors committed by radicals and militants are by default a sign of Islamic principles and I showed him otherwise. That he cannot respond - he argues that I am ignoring the events and not condemning them, even though I had done so time and time again.

What I have also noticed by the most bigoted - the "Baron" and "Dymphna" by the way have not themselves shown bigotry - is that they will use the great "escape clause" of claiming Taqiyya. I find that the most funny of all, considering that I live in and have extensively travelled the Muslim world, that term is not used if not understood by almost all of the Muslim population on the planet. Only theological students, clerics and non-Muslim right-wing extremists ever utter such phrases. The same goes with the desire for a Caliphate. I have learnt very quickly over these months studying the anti-Islam community out there - if they mentioned Taqiyya, they will refuse whatever answer you give them and any questions are a trap.

The most interesting thing I learnt is how people can build themselves into a frenzy over the concept of Shari'a and this Caliphate threat.

Obviously the anti-Islam websites, rumours and other sources are carefully filling in the completely wrong statement that Shari'a exists throughout the Muslim World and will be demanded and attempt to take over the rest of the world.

So when I point out that the reality is completely different - that in fact most Muslim countries in the world do not have Shari'a Courts and some have mixed Secular and only Shari'a for family law - they simply thought I was making it up. I guess they know better than the rest of the world and those living it - because someone told them.

I will have to continue investigating the issue and problem of how this view of Shari'a and somehow the world will face the demand of a Caliphate - even though the Muslim World is not interested - comes about.

Much of it is clear though, it is that the radicals in the West are often more radical than those elsewhere and that is a serious problem.

Take care all, the investigations continue.....

(a footnote, I do not apologize to GoV for the study, it was clear if anyone had read my blog and I had a goal. I find GoV not that offensive like others but typical in some aspects - the "we support Israel" emblem and the photo and supportive banner for Geert Wilders, frankly puts down what would be a well presented and simply strong-right blog).

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On holiday but still watching - as bigotry does not stop for holidays

Hi all, I am on holidays in Agadir (South Morocco) and enjoying myself way to much. That does not mean I have been off the net but certainly limiting it.

Today I took a look at the bigoted, racist and down-right neo-Fascists out there that continue there garbage, it did not take long.
Lambeth Walk's low-life certainly has not changed, regardless of his claims of innocence.

He loves to put on the blog label the word Islam with those that have an Ali or Mohammed as a name even though the article he cites has no reference to religious activity. Of course an item about a probable Christian being posted as was done also on the same blog has no such label - showing his intentions. I told him his singling out makes for text-book bigotry - he did not justify it and of course his solution was to chop my post.

On another thread, a terrible and disgusting case of rape of two girls by an elderly man - yep a person of Bangladesh descent and a Muslim was labelled as an item on Islam and the neo-fascist poster Dr.D was allowed that openly referred to all Muslims as "sex obsesses", "animals" and much, much more (remember he is the one on the post preceding this one that says all Muslims must be deported and if they resist - killed).

Pointing that out - my post was cut, not his.

The blogger of Lambeth Walk continues to ensure his keeping the title - "low-life" with the confirmation of bigotry.

Two more weeks of holiday but I have some items that I will post on my exchanges with the Gates of Vienna blog - they will be interesting.

Lambeth Walk Low-Life - Supporting calling it Illegal to be a Muslim (and worse!)

"It should be illegal to be a muzlim, and deportation should be the punishment (or death). "

Lambeth Walk posted an item remembering the victims of the 7 July 2005 terror bombings in London that killed 52 average ordinary people. A dark event in any world.

Doing so is fine, I have no problem with that as long as mindless ranting about race, immigration and blaming an entire religion does not come along with it. In this case, the item started off fine and with clear facts that are well known but of course in the end he had to start ranting about immigration and open borders along with bowing (kow-towing was his word) to the Islamic World. Thus the item was just another disgraceful low-life attempt to gain agenda scoring on the back of real victims - pathetic!

But that is not all - it gets even more disgusting - but from another angle - the comment section.

The Lambeth Walk low-life is very smart in allowing comments that only suit his needs, sometimes allowing criticism or alternative responses if he believes that he can either win the argument clearly or that he can abuse them and use that abuse as the closing argument (of course not allowing the response to the abuse). A clever attack on a so-called open discussion and democratic principles claimed by these sick bloggers. That is why I make it clear, no comments so that I cannot either fall into or be blamed for such hypocrisy.

Anyhow - this is when it gets sick. There is an obviously bigoted and probably immature poster going by the name Dr.D. who comes out with sometimes raving and idiotic comments, often verbatim to sicko websites and certainly - just off the top of his bigoted head.

He came out with this line "It should be illegal to be a muzlim, and deportation should be the punishment (or death). " Now from him I can expect this type of crazed comment.

So I asked the blog owner to cut the item out as it is both disgraceful, demanding the death of Muslims who resist mandatory deportation from Britain and that by not doing so or at least not posting a comment condemning Dr.D. then by proxy you are supporting it.

He first charged "what item"? I replied, he cut out his question (because it was stupid) and mine and the item still sticks. I have, just in case it was a glitch the request three times now, all ignored and the item remains. He continues to post items on his blog, so we know he has seen it.

Thus it is clear as can be, the low-life blogger of Lambeth Walk obviously considers it a valued solution to his bigoted hatred for Muslims and that the British Government should deport all Muslim in the UK and those that resist should be executed.

Way to go Lambeth Walk, supporting a new 'final solution'.

http://thelambethwalk.blogspot.com/2009/07/7th-july-2005.html

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Right-wing genie out of the bottle

Below is a disturbing item I found in the Sydney Morning Herald today about the level of far-right extremists in Australia attempting to form Political Parties. It has been four years since the last pathetic experiment with One Nation, now the Australia First Party and the Australian Protectionist Party are attempting to be registered and allowed to enter elections.

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"Mr Saleam, who gained a doctorate in political science while serving a 3½-year-jail term for possessing a firearm and organising a shotgun attack on the home of the African National Congress's Australian representative."

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Right-wing genie out of the bottle
Erik JensenJuly 9, 2009
THE party faithful gathered in "the bunker". In a room decorated with Heidelberg School art posters and Ned Kelly figurines, Jim Saleam, the NSW director of the Australia First Party, recited the Eureka Oath.
The father of far right politics in Australia told the dozen people gathered around a plastic trestle table - a group too small to entertain registration as a federal political party - that they were on the cusp of return. "We are a genie in the bottle," he said. "When the system itself says it's in trouble we must welcome that.
"For, Australia, we are now moving into the most extraordinary of times."
Five months since that meeting in a former shop in Tempe, the genie is out of the bottle: today Australia First will announce itself as the first anti-immigration party since One Nation to gain enough members to contest a federal election. The party finished signing the 500 members on Monday and expects its application to be lodged in a fortnight - five years after it was last deregistered and four years since One Nation lost its final federal seat.
"The registration of Australia First Party … will be a decisive act in uniting all Australian nationalist and patriotic groups and people," Mr Saleam wrote in a newsletter. "At first in common labour and then into a single movement."
The party plans to contest lower house seats in western and southern Sydney, on the Darling Downs and possibly in the Hunter. It expects to attract between 6 and 7 per cent of the primary vote and will run a television campaign aimed at the trucking industry and an anti-immigration policy made more palatable by linking population to environmental issues.
The elevation of Australia First into a party capable of winning seats is in line with events overseas. Against the backdrop of the global economic crisis, far right organisations such as the British National Party made a strong showing at last month's European elections.
In the past few months skinheads from the Southern Cross Hammerskins have started organising to induct members and set up a record label and an internet radio station. The Ku Klux Klan has established a presence in Victoria with links to the expanding klan in the US. The Australian Protectionist Party - which split from Australia First in 2007 - is preparing to lodge its own federal registration.
"Australians tend to be fairly non-political in their outlook," said Darrin Hodges, the protectionist party's NSW chairman and Mr Saleam's key rival. "You have to work on educating people [that] there's a problem there, and we're making progress with that."
Australia First began its return to federal politics on Australia Day, when Mr Saleam managed to associate himself with a mob of teenagers chanting nationalist slogans at Manly - a gathering which was played down by politicians and the police media unit, but which is being investigated as possibly the first act of co-ordinated racism since the Cronulla riots in 2005.
Working in the background, police were attempting to link the mob to an unnamed nationalist group uncovered in western Sydney a week earlier. The mob of 80 people who raced up and down the Corso on January 26, smashing cars and chanting, appeared to be organised rather than a drunken pack, though there is nothing to suggest that Mr Saleam himself was directly involved in any vandalism.
The group split in half at a decisive moment, weakening police efforts to contain them.
"Police have played this down significantly. It's just going to be worse next year," a senior police source said. "There is the push on for nationalism and if we don't get a grip on this we will be looking at something we did not think could happen in Australia. You can't put the genie back in the bottle."
Two factors are working in favour of the ultra-right. Despite a 20 per cent cut to skilled migration numbers, Australia First and the Australian Protectionist Party expect the recession to create instability and resentment of non-white labour. At the same time, party members disenfranchised by the collapse of One Nation have begun to return to the movement.
"We'll start seeing a lot of protest voting," said Mr Saleam, who gained a doctorate in political science while serving a 3½-year-jail term for possessing a firearm and organising a shotgun attack on the home of the African National Congress's Australian representative. "We will see not only defence of identity but defence of jobs. If that spills over into reasonable-level confrontation, I would support that.
"We want to turn ordinary people - suburban housewives, unemployed youth - into political activists. We seek to mobilise a group of people who have not previously been mobilised. We want to cause disaffection from the regime who govern against their own people. We want to mobilise small-t troublemakers."
But despite the recent rise in membership, the new right is very much the old right and Jim Saleam remains at the centre of it. Australian nationalism is a fractal of hyperlinks and blog posts, tied to reality by the occasional post office box.
John Moffat, an aged-care worker with tattooed forearms and spiked hair, is a prime example of the movement. He arrived at a meeting of the Australian Protectionist Party in late February.
Mr Moffat has previously been an Australia First candidate and ran for the now-defunct Australians Against Further Immigration before it was absorbed into One Nation.
"I've just been waiting with my finger up to the wind," he said. "But with the crashing of the economy, let's say the tribes will start to consolidate. From this meeting, I've got a little bit of hope. I just picked up a membership form. More than likely, I will join them."

http://www.smh.com.au/national/rightwing-genie-out-of-the-bottle-20090708-ddfk.html?page=-1

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MASh Scam Exposed – Bigots Stealing from other Bigots!!!

Further investigations into the non-Muslim “Muslims Against Sharia” website has uncovered that this hate-fest is not only run by non-existent people claiming to be Muslims but that the site is also under US federal investigation for – not having business licenses, tax files and that any donations given of course are thus disappearing into the pockets of the criminals running it.

A Florida based private investigator (see details and references below) has spent a great deal of time and effort tracking and noting the non-existent activities of MASh and its owner that include false claims of anti-terrorist activities, speeches and meetings and more.

Ironically, the site is relying on post 9/11 anti-Islamic sentiment to raise its profile and thus also attacking the general Muslim community but also its own supporters whom both are cheated by its lies (from both angles) as well as the loss of any money donated.

I was preparing an example of the ridiculous manifesto and goals that is spouted by the website in regards to “reforming Islam” but instead have chosen to just point out the criminal scam side of the matter as that explains it all. Needless to say that any Muslim, be they the most liberal minded would find the manifesto impossible – as it ask for Islam to recognize that it was responsible for the Crusades and that the actions of the Christians was just a retaliation! Need I say more!

Below is a part of a posting on http://www.billwarnerpi.com/2009/03/muslims-against-sharia-and-khalim_28.html by the Private Investigator Bill Warner:

After thorough investigation into the activity of Muslims Against Sharia and the "President" Khalim Massoud corroborated with an agent for the US Secret Service in Omaha NE, there is no doubt that in fact Muslims Against Sharia is not a Muslim advocate group for moderate Muslims, it is in fact not a Muslim Group of any kind and the President of Muslims Against Sharia, the king of the false posters, Khalim Massoud, is using a phony name as there is no such person listed in the USA.Muslims Against Sharia and the "President" Khalim Massoud use PO Box 241732 Omaha NE 68124 to collect donations (since 9/11/01) see, "Help Moderate Muslims fight Islamofascists! Please find enclosed my check, made payable to Muslims Against Sharia". Muslims Against Sharia and the "President" Khalim Massoud have become the focus of a IRS and USPS criminal investigation into where the donations went.Muslims Against Sharia and the "President" Khalim Massoud do not have a business license in Omaha NE, there supposed HQ, Muslims Against Sharia and the "President" Khalim Massoud do not have a charity listed with the IRS to collect donations, nor did Muslims Against Sharia and the "President" Khalim Massoud ever incorporate their business in the State of Omaha as required to collect donations, fake, fake, and fake, they do not exist in the "real world".There are no listed interviews given by Muslims Against Sharia and the "President" Khalim Massoud with any reputable Main Street Media organization, no newspaper, no radio program, no TV station, nothing just "Fake Interviews On The Internet" with groups linked to or closely associated or even those behind the False Posters Muslims Against Sharia and Khalim Massoud.

Aparantly this Khalim Massoud was rather angry at being investigated and started a smear campaign against Mr Warner. I have seen some of the items, they certainly go through a lot of rhetoric and language but actually all references and quotes given are to his own items and blog-sites but of those accusing Warner – none! Warner is no man’s fool – a professional response and a good one is noted below:

http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/irs-us-secret-service-omaha-nebraska-khalim-massoud-and-muslims-agaisnt-sharia/
IRS & US Secret Service Omaha Nebraska, Khalim Massoud and Muslims Against Sharia

INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE CRIMIANL INVESTIGATIONS, FRESNO, CA 93888
US SECRET SERVICE, 2707 N. 108th St. OMAHA NE. 68164, PH 402-965-9670
Are the online attacks by the author of the “Muslims Against Sharia” aka Khalim Massoud with an email address of reformislam@gmail.com who has Defamed and Intends to cause an interruption of Bill Warner’s business, WBI Private Detective Agency, by posting libelous messages, linked to the al-Muhajiroun group, same tactics are being used, see Friday, March 20, 2009, PI BILL WARNER QUOTED IN “FAMILY SECURITY MATTERS” EXPOSE ON MUSLIM JIHAD GROUP “AL-MUHAJIROUN”

The Chasing Evil website and blog also caught onto the issue of MASh and came out with many interesting facts and opinions, I have put only a portion, the reference is there for anyone interested. Chasing Evil is run by the Reverend Sutter and has good mix of inter-faith contributions.

http://www.chasingevil.org/2009/03/non-muslims-against-sharia.html

Curiously, the site contains absolutely NO membership or governance information at all. No indication of who created this organization, who its members are, who manages it, who governs it, who sets its policies and direction…nothing. Sort of odd for a non-profit advocacy group - especially one that’s fundraising.There is, however, a page that allows you to donate by Paypal, Mastercard, Visa, or Amex to “help fight Islamofascists”. And that page lists the donors. The first “donor” on the list, if you google it, turns out to be the Executive Director of the organization. The second “donor”, turns out to be a member of the organization who seems to spend most of his time posting anti-Muslim taunts on various blogs. At that point I stopped Googling “donors”. Feel free to continue down the list - I’d be curious. There aren’t many of them.Back to the home page, where the organization’s “Manifesto” is set out. And here again, one is struck by the uncanny similarity between the agenda of this allegedly “Muslim” group, and that of American and European neo-nazi sites that claim to support “moderate” Muslims while actually trashing anything Islamic.Among the elements of this “Muslim” “Manifesto” are such popular right wing talking points as “the Crusades were not unprovoked acts of aggression, but rather attempts to recapture formerly Christian lands controlled by Muslims”, and “We must remove evil passages from Islamic religious texts, so that future generations of Muslims will not be confused by conflicting messages.”

I have sent emails to all the above asking for updates and how I can support and help. Already I have contacted all those linked with MASh to warn them of the scam and the hate-mongering nature of the site, most have returned with shock and dismay (having just took the words of “moderate Islam” as enough and a number said that they will contact demanding their links be removed.

I certainly will keep you all up-to-date on the matter.

Christian Action Network - Are they Bigots and Fundamentalists? .

I was very concerned about the organisation called Christian Action Network or CAN, apparently all the wordings are nice, a concerned moral group that seeks a better America.

Are they?

To confirm my suspicions, particularly with the close association that their founder Martin Mawyer had with Jerry Falwell (who casually condemned the Prophet Mohammad as a terrorist), I wrote them a letter.

The replies came and I have sent a request for confirmation that the views given represent Mawyer and CAN as he did not reply himself. I have placed the correspondance here for all to see.

I am waiting for their response, if the prove me otherwise, great I will post that as well, but I am not confident at all.

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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:41:03 +0000From: solkhar@yahoo.frSubject: A question for Martin Mawyer pleaseTo: martin@christianaction.orgCC: Amber@christianaction.org; TDCAnalyst@aol.com; JPCampbell70@msn.com

Dear Mr. Mawyer,

Though CAN was created in 1990, I noticed almost exclusively the objective of CAN is identifying and fighting Islamic fundamentalism and terrorist threats within the United States.

Though I would certainly join any group with a desire to eliminate fundamentalism and violent threats, my concern and question to you Mr Mawyer is that your material in CAN appears to be not only attacking militant Islamist threats and Muslim Fundamentalists, but Islam itself. This I would not support but in fact condemn. Are you apposed to Islam the religious faith?

Additionally, I noticed your biography links you to Jerry Falwell, based on you being the "editor of Jerry Falwell's "Moral Majority Report."". Jerry Falwells description of Islam's Prophet as a "Terrorist" is still amongst the great excuses why many in the world use the term 'Ugly American'. In many books, Falwell is considered an extremist and a fundamentalist.

I also understand that CAN and the Paul Revere Brigade are the one and same organisation, which again though under the banner of exposing Islamist fundamentalism, is in fact associated with anti-Islamic hate sites such as Jihad-Watch. Amongst the goals and efforts claimed by the Paul Revere Brigade is the following statement which in itself is a breach of US civil liberties:

"Keep an eye on your schools, government, local laws, newspaper articles and known Islamic activity in your city...."

From the above, it is the assumption that all activities of Muslims communities needs to be watched. It would be easy to counter such arguments that considering the FBI has identified that radical Evangelist Groups are linked to home-grown-terror and is of concern, and thus it should be fair that Paul Revere Brigade and CAN should concentrate on that as well.

I asked this question to gain your views and opinions on Islam and the many moderate Muslims who themselves are not just concerned and working towards combating militant Islamists and fundamentalism within the Muslim community - but suffer having to live amongst them, let alone those poor souls living in such theocratic societies run by these people. Why do I ask?

My motive for the question is simply to know if I should support or condemn you, to praise and make mention or condemn and expose. Though I have a small blogsite of my own, I am linked to many more and though mostly retired, in my domain, I have gained respect and my opinion about the views of those in the west is listened to.

Regards with anticipation...

Solkhar

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De : Jason Campbell À : solkhar@yahoo.fr; martin@christianaction.orgCc : amber@christianaction.org; tdcanalyst@aol.comEnvoyé le : Lundi, 6 Juillet 2009, 18h41mn 00sObjet : RE: A question for Martin Mawyer please

Very interesting points – well said.

Understand, CAN is not an extremist organization and we hope to convince you to support our cause. We base all our information on facts in understanding that Islam is not a religion – but a social, political and ideological movement that promotes itself in a form of religion in order to force people into submission.

I ask this question to you – Should Islam have equal recognition as a religion in America ? I believe, fundamentalist Islam’s goal is to overthrow all secular governments including America . Islam will always be a potential ‘5th column’ in any non-Muslim society where it resides. And no matter how much moderate Muslims may regret it, fight against it or not wish to participate in it, Holy Jihad as warfare and conquest is basic Islam.

Is it not so that 8 of the 10 nations that lead in persecuting Christians in the world today are Islamic. Will America be next?

Thanks,
Jason Campbell
Christian Action Network

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Dear Mr Campbell,

If CAN bases its information on an understanding that Islam is not a religion then I certainly will not support your cause but condemn it. That you claim there are facts that lead you to believe so, suggests your information sources are not factual.

The history of Islam is clear and its religious basis along with that of Christianity and Judaism certainly give confirmation as to an Islamic "religion". A fifth of humanity prays to the same divine God that you do. I certainly do.

It appears that your concerns are about the existence of fundamentalism and radical militancy and that you have confused the two with mainstream and Islamic theology. Certainly fundamentalists in all faiths claim that "God is on our side" when certainly both the teachings and the bulk of the faithful know otherwise. There is no doubt that the bulk of that is now happening within the Muslim World and that is why it is even more important to concentrate on avoiding making the mistake of confusing the issues.

The best way ahead for peace in this world is to concentrate on that battle against radical fundamentalism in all its forms and from all faiths. Fundamentalism by its very nature stops the clock of progress and advancement and considers that it has a right to force others to follow. It assumes the arrogant posturing of being the only true believers and that any method is acceptable to achieve its goals.

To confuse and spread misinformation about Islam based on incorrect knowledge causes alienation, confusion on truths and misdirection on what is the real dangers. It causes moderate Muslims to also then presume that there is neither support for their on-going battle against radicals and to many it provides suspicion that there is another enemy in waiting. What it does most though, is provide ammunition to the fundamentalists that their own lies and propaganda is correct - that there are Christian zealots who are striving for some form of Crusade and thus justification for their own political version.

Frankly speaking, my fears that CAN are linked to Christian fundamentalism and anti-Islamic agendas appear to be correct. That if I understand your words correctly, CAN does not join in but in fact actively pursues an agenda that is designed to instill confusion and mistrust between faiths.

It also tells me that CAN does not and will not support an existence that has the United States of America as an active and respected participant in the world community. Such a policy also does not make American any safer - because you would prefer to not have America concentrate on the real dangers and issues.

Though I would have preferred a response directly from Mr Mawyer, I can assume you represent CAN's official line. Could you confirm that please.

A last point, I think it not very prudent or correct to tell a Muslim that his religion is not one at all but a dangerous political experiment. It is this attitude that certainly confirms my views of a very malign fundamentalist superiority.

I await your confirmation

Solkhar

ps. my letter, your reply and this response is published on my blog-site www.solkhar.blogspot.com Solkhar's World - Views from the Atlas

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I should point out that I did receive from my original email a rather different reply from one of their members which is also why I asked what is the official line. I had no problem with this reply at all.


Solkhar,

Thanks for the email. I'll let Martin speak for himself. I'll tell you that the opinions of some staff differ (no two humans agree on everything) and I've personally heard Martin speak very highly of moderate Muslims, although as a Christian he obviously disagrees with Islam (just like you, as a Muslim, disagree with Christianity). I'll let him elaborate on his beliefs.

But personally, I think if you do some research on my work, you'll find me to be a great ally of moderate Muslims, and as such, would much appreciate if you kept in contact with me. Check out my site, WorldThreats.com, as I often post reports about the activity of moderate Muslims.

Ryan MauroFounder, WorldThreats.com.National Security Researcher, Christian Action Network.Director of Intelligence, Asymmetric Warfare and Intelligence Center (AWIC)